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ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:41 pm
by Kitaw
ጤና ይስጥልኝ ለዚህ ቤት ታዳሚዎች! እንዴት ከረማችሁ? ሁሉ አማን? ፓስዎርዴ ጠፍቶብኝ በስንት መከራ ነው መግባት የቻልኩት። ምስጋና ለአድሚናችን @gebetaforum ይድረስና። ፎረሙንም አሳምሮታል ወዳጃችን። እስኪ እኛም እናማሙቅለት።
ሰሞኑን ከ100+ ዓመታት በፊት የተጻፈ የሊቁን የዶክተር ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ መጽሃፍ እያነበብኩ ነበር እና አንዳንድ ሃሳቦቹ ፍጹም የማያረጁ ለዚህ ዘመንም የሚመጥኑ ሆነው ነው ያገኘኋቸው። አለፍ አለፍ እያልኩ አንዳንድ ሃሳቦቹን እዚህ እጠቅሳለሁ። የምንማማርበት ርዕስ እንደሚሆን ተስፋ አደርጋለሁ።
«ሕዝቦች በላያቸው ባሉት መንግስታት ውስጥ ሲያድሩ አስተዳደራቸው ስለ ሁለት ነገር ነው። መጀመሪያ ሕዝቡ ለመንግስት የሚገባውን ነገር ሁሉ እንዲፈጽምለት ይገባል። ሁለተኛም መንግስት ሕዝቡ የሚያስፈልገውን ነገር ሁሉ እንዳያጣ ከሽፍታና ከወንበዴ ከሌባም እንዲጠብቀው ይገባዋል።
መንግስት ስርዓቱንና ደንቡን ያወጣል። ስርዓቱንና ደንቡን ካወጣ ብኋላ ግን በገዛ አዋጁ ጸንቶ በዚያው ባወጣው ስርዓትና ደንብ ህዝቡ ይሄዳል።
በያንዳንዱም መንግስት የሚያድሩ ብዙ ልዩ ልዩ ነገዶች ይኖሩ ይሆናል። ስለሆነ መንግስት አንዱን ነገድ አጥቅቶ ሌላውን ነገድ ለመጥቀም ስራው አይደለም። አስተካክለን ካሰብን ዘንድ መንግስት መቆሙ ለሕዝቡ ሁሉ ጥቅም ነው። መንግስት ሕዝቡን ሁሉ በትክክል ለመጥቀም ካላሰበ መንግስት በዙፋኑ ሊቆም አይችልም። ላንዱ ነገድ ወይም ለጥቂት ሰዎች ብቻ ማድላት ለመንግስት የሚገባ ስራው አይደለም።”
ይመስለኝ ይህ የሊቁ ምክር ከመቼውም ግዜ በላይ ለአገራችን ጠቃሚ ይመስለኛል። ምን ትላላችሁ?
Re: ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር ዛሬም ሰሚ ያሻል
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:48 pm
by yaman
ወዳጄ @Kitaw ስላየሁህ እጅግ በጣም ደስ ብሎኛል
ጎሽ እንዲህ ቤቱን ሞቅ ሞቅ አድርጉት እንጂ፣ ወዳጅ ምናምን እየጋበዛችሁ 
ይገርምሃል ያን መጽሃፍ ያነበብኩት የዛሬ አስራምናምን አመት ነበር። ደግሜ ማንበብ ሳይኖርብኝ አይቀርም። የሶሻል ኮንትራክት ፈላስፋዎችን እነ ሆብስን፣ ጆን ሎክንና ዣን ዣክ ሩሶን ያነበቡ ምሁር እንደነበሩ ይሰማኛል። በጠቀስካት ጽሁፋቸው የሰፈረው የመንግስትና የህዝብ ድርሻና ግዴታዎች በነዛ ፈላስፋዎች ሀሳብ የተቃኘ ይመስለኛል። በእርግጥ በመጽሃፉ የመጀመሪያ ክፍል ስለ አገረ መንግስት አመጣጥ ሲያብራሩ፣ የፕላቶን ሪፐብሊክና የሩሶን ሶሻል ኮንትራክት ያስታውሱኛል። ነገር ግን ከነበረው ግዜ አንጻር በምዕራቡ አለም እንደኖሩ ምሁር መጠንና በግዜው እንደነበረው ፋሽን የሚጠብቀውን ያህል ስለ ዴሞክራሲና ዘ ጄነራል ዊል አልጻፉም ብዬ አስባለሁ። ያም ሆኖ ከዘመናቸው በፊት የነቁ ወደር የማይገኝላቸው "ሊቅ" ለመሆናቸው ቅንጣት ጥርጥር የለኝም።
Re: ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር ዛሬም ሰሚ ያሻል
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
by Baykedagn
This is interesting topic guys. I can't help but drop this amazing contrast between GHB and contemporary economists by Zinabu 2018. Indeed, GHB was a briliant man ahead of his time
GHB put emphasis on the importance of peace and stability for development. While discussing the destructive conflict cycles in the history of Ethiopia, he emphasizes that ‘war and conflict are possibly the biggest obstacles for development, and that poverty and inequality maintain a vicious cycle of underdevelopment. Recently, this nexus between poverty and conflict has been publicized, among others, by Collier (2007), who argues that civil war is much more likely to break out in low-ncome countries: halve the starting income of the country and you double the risk of civil war’ . However, in contrast to Collier (2007), who goes on to recommend fostering of competition to break this vicious cycle of conflict and poverty, GHB recommends changing the structure of the economy through industrialization because, according to him, synergistic development of increasing returns activities in an agglomerated manner with extensive division of labor and specialization leads to increased social harmony, more trust, less conflict and more cooperative behavior. This is similar to the views put forward recently by Reinert et al. (2011), who argue that absence of an increasing returns sectors in an economy creates zero-sum game societies of static rent-seeking, which makes such nations prime candidates for developing into failing, failed and fragile (FFF) states. Thus, the root causes of poverty and underdevelopment lie in a certain type of economic structure which fails to produce the virtuous circles of economic growth that requires increasing returns and sufficient diversity and diffusion of economic activities in order to become self-sustainable.
Re: ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር ዛሬም ሰሚ ያሻል
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:03 am
by dan
ሰላም ለዚህ ቤት በጣም አስተማሪ ይዘት ያለው ርዕስ ነው በእውነቱ። እኔ ብዙም እውቀቱ የለኝም አርፌ ብማር ነው የሚሻለው። ከገባሁ አይቀር አስተያየት ጣል አልድርግ ብዬ ነው። ለመሆኑ በዛ ዘመን ብሔር ወይም ሃይማኖት ተኮር ግጭቶች ነበሩ እንዴ? አንዱን ጎሳ ከሌላ ጎሳ ማዳላት አይገባም ሲሉ ጸሃፊው ትንቢት እየተናገሩ ነበር ወይስ ይህ የዘመኑ በሽታ እያልን የምንጠራው ዘረኝነት ያኔ ጀምሮ ነበር? ይቅርታ አድርጉልኝ ከዘባረቅኩ 
Re: ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር ዛሬም ሰሚ ያሻል
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:56 pm
by Kitaw
Selam Baykedagn, awey yesim memesasel
Thank you for sharing this amazing stuff! Where/how can I get the full article, please?
Baykedagn wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
This is interesting topic guys. I can't help but drop this amazing contrast between GHB and contemporary economists by Zinabu 2018. Indeed, GHB was a briliant man ahead of his time
GHB put emphasis on the importance of peace and stability for development. While discussing the destructive conflict cycles in the history of Ethiopia, he emphasizes that ‘war and conflict are possibly the biggest obstacles for development, and that poverty and inequality maintain a vicious cycle of underdevelopment. Recently, this nexus between poverty and conflict has been publicized, among others, by Collier (2007), who argues that civil war is much more likely to break out in low-ncome countries: halve the starting income of the country and you double the risk of civil war’ . However, in contrast to Collier (2007), who goes on to recommend fostering of competition to break this vicious cycle of conflict and poverty, GHB recommends changing the structure of the economy through industrialization because, according to him, synergistic development of increasing returns activities in an agglomerated manner with extensive division of labor and specialization leads to increased social harmony, more trust, less conflict and more cooperative behavior. This is similar to the views put forward recently by Reinert et al. (2011), who argue that absence of an increasing returns sectors in an economy creates zero-sum game societies of static rent-seeking, which makes such nations prime candidates for developing into failing, failed and fragile (FFF) states. Thus, the root causes of poverty and underdevelopment lie in a certain type of economic structure which fails to produce the virtuous circles of economic growth that requires increasing returns and sufficient diversity and diffusion of economic activities in order to become self-sustainable.
Re: ዘመን የማይሽረው የሊቁ ነጋድራስ ገብረህይወት ባይከዳኝ ምክር ዛሬም ሰሚ ያሻል
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:37 pm
by Baykedagn
@Kitaw here is the link to the article: https://academic.oup.com/cje/article-ab ... edFrom=PDF
Kitaw wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:56 pm
Selam Baykedagn, awey yesim memesasel
Thank you for sharing this amazing stuff! Where/how can I get the full article, please?
Baykedagn wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:43 pm
This is interesting topic guys. I can't help but drop this amazing contrast between GHB and contemporary economists by Zinabu 2018. Indeed, GHB was a briliant man ahead of his time
GHB put emphasis on the importance of peace and stability for development. While discussing the destructive conflict cycles in the history of Ethiopia, he emphasizes that ‘war and conflict are possibly the biggest obstacles for development, and that poverty and inequality maintain a vicious cycle of underdevelopment. Recently, this nexus between poverty and conflict has been publicized, among others, by Collier (2007), who argues that civil war is much more likely to break out in low-ncome countries: halve the starting income of the country and you double the risk of civil war’ . However, in contrast to Collier (2007), who goes on to recommend fostering of competition to break this vicious cycle of conflict and poverty, GHB recommends changing the structure of the economy through industrialization because, according to him, synergistic development of increasing returns activities in an agglomerated manner with extensive division of labor and specialization leads to increased social harmony, more trust, less conflict and more cooperative behavior. This is similar to the views put forward recently by Reinert et al. (2011), who argue that absence of an increasing returns sectors in an economy creates zero-sum game societies of static rent-seeking, which makes such nations prime candidates for developing into failing, failed and fragile (FFF) states. Thus, the root causes of poverty and underdevelopment lie in a certain type of economic structure which fails to produce the virtuous circles of economic growth that requires increasing returns and sufficient diversity and diffusion of economic activities in order to become self-sustainable.